Just because it''s Von Wade''s show doesn''t mean a sole agenda is being pushed. He may push a viewpoint, but he''s not the only one.

lonestar
Posts: 4 Eric's beach agenda
6/7/2006 5:41:22 PM I just listened to eric talk for 30 minutes about how great cutting off vehicle access to the jetties is. He is totally using his radio show as a tool to promote his side only. The GLO has received overwelming public response opposing this closure because the majority does not want it. The law is on the side of the opposition. Collapse all posts in this thread Author Replys lonestar
Posts: 4 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/7/2006 5:54:08 PM I love my corpus christi because of the open access we have to all of our beaches and bays. Eric keeps saying the trolly will take us to the jetty. Will they let me throw my stringer of slimy and bloody trout, redfish, or shark in the seat next to the boy, girl, and grandma too. curtis rock
Posts: 754 Pick up the phone....
6/8/2006 12:26:15 PM Hey Lonestar

Just because it''s Von Wade''s show doesn''t mean a sole agenda is being pushed. He may push a viewpoint, but he''s not the only one.

Last time I checked, he takes phone calls from people. If you want another side of the story presented, pick up the phone and call him up.

Eric is very good about taking calls from people in opposition. CommonSense
Posts: 568 Agree with him or not..
6/7/2006 9:20:23 PM It is the Eric VonWade show. I believe that means he sets the topic of discussion. Kind of neat when you basically ""own"" the show don''t you think? lonestar
Posts: 4 Re: Agree with him or not..
6/8/2006 12:29:29 AM Yes, perfect for pushing an agenda. I just can''t believe he doesn''t see the fisherman/surfer/citizen side to this. If this was an area where hog, goose, or duck hunting was prime, and 4wheeler/truck access was being taken away, he would have a completely different take. The sharpshooter crowd would be all over this. Imagine carrying all those decoys, dogs, guns, knives, ammo, and whatever else you need to the end of the jetty after already walking 1800 feet...impossible. Every poll that has been done on this issue has shown an overwhelming opposition to the vehicle restriction. Eric has joined the city council in their agenda to do this even though the majority of citizens are against it. That goes against everything Eric has appeared to stand for all these years. I don''t mind him expressing his opinion about the issue, we all should, but he crossed the line when he begged his listeners for an hour to contact the GLO and try to show support that doesn''t exist. CommonSense
Posts: 568 Welcome to the forum lonestar...
6/8/2006 7:58:11 AM but he crossed the line when he begged his listeners for an hour to contact the GLO and try to show support that doesn''t exist.

Understand that he didn''t cross any line. It is his show. He did what any other talk radio host would have done. Cato
Posts: 171 Homer & Eric should debate the issue - want ratings
6/8/2006 12:19:48 AM here is the show to end all shows. The looser will resigh from KEYS? Rudy
Posts: 120 Re: Homer & Eric should debate the issue - want ratings
6/8/2006 12:21:13 PM That would not even be a fair fight because Eric''s the only one with a brain. Homer is not even with KEYS, just a guest last I heard.

Anyway to the Beach proposal Mr. Von Wade has brought to the audience attention that he supports this proposal and than has backed that up with reasons why he feels the way he feels. You can''t knock him for doing that, but what you can do is outline your reasoning on why you disagree with the beach proposal.

This is a good discussion becuase it affects our community and should be debated until we are all blue in the face.

I mean what''s best for Corpus Christi? Bringing in this new resort, and the money coming with that or keep our beaches development free?

I still lean to keeping our beaches free because to me there is a big slippery slope aspect of letting one developer in to our beach than you must in essence court all other developers as well. Even though some say this won''t happen how can you tell? I think it is the people''s experience not to trust our City Council.

There are great aspects to this proposal and how much we all would be benefiting from it, so would that be a significant trade off?

Well you just can never really tell, I guess, but I do not think this is the all and be all opportunities the City will have in order to promote growth so I am not too worried about it. Major Carrales
Posts: 421 My position on the beach is well known...
6/8/2006 12:29:50 PM ...and so is Eric''s.

I see no wrong in what he is doing. He believes in the issue, let him have his say...it is his show after all.

If one disagrees...then there is the GLO to contact...either way.

I''m just pleased that there is actually civic participation through the exercise of the lesser known FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT of ""petition for the REDRESS of GRIEVANCES."" odie
Posts: 1 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/8/2006 1:29:54 PM I was so moved by Eric''s rant yesterday that I decided to visit his web site. I saw he had a poll so I decided to register and vote in it.

Eric, you have indeed motivated me to write the GLO.

I cannot believe how much mis-information and such is being spread about the so called pedestrian beaches.

Contrary to what you and the developer would want us all to believe, the resort project does not hang in the balance nor will it go away if vehicles are allowed to remain on the public''s beach. There is simpily no more undeveloped beach front in America left. They are not going anywhere.

This resort will all be on private property behind the dunes so vehicles on the beach cannot in anyway be interferring with the development of the resort.

The people here enjoy driving on the beach to find their own special spot and have their BBQ, cooler, tents, whatever with them.

Americans are a people of convinience. If it is not convinient, we will not go to our beach.

I have seen so many ""public"" beaches that resorts sit on. You are not welcome in their parking lots. They put their high prices umbrella rentals all over the sand to mark ""their"" territory.

Any public parking lot will not be plaed in a location that is in the public''s benefit.

Why don''t the resort''s offer free 24 hour parking in their lots and access to the beach if they want my car off my beach in front of their resort?

Pedestrian beaches? Go to Bob Hall Pier. Go to Mustang Island State Park. Go to Port Aransass. There are plenty of pedestrian only zones already.

Offers were made of using the Port A beach model and rejected by the developer.

Iused to live in Ocean Springs, MS long before the casinos in the early 1970''s. The gold coast is booming with money rom all the development. Do you know where they built all those beach front casinos? All on exsisting developed property. Wharfs, marinas, canneries, etc. All along HWY 90 where you could park on the shoulder and step directly onto the sandy beach are still there and still 100% free.

Now don''t think I''m some left wing nut job who is against big business and all. I am very economically conservative. I''ve spent over 15 years inthe military and was in Iraq last year and am ready for another tour. I want this resort to be built. And someone will build it. I''ve already heard the developer say they are proceeding regardless of what happens with the beach access. So just leave the public''s beach alone.

""it''s about time Corpus""? ""I love my CC""? City Council?

Why do they want to stop the petition?

The petition is NOT about driving on the beach. The petition is about letting the people who live here actually vote what they want to have. If it''s no vehicles, then so be it.

Why is the government so afraid of it''s own people?

Fear the government that fears you. Guido
Posts: 180 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/8/2006 3:59:53 PM First, welcome lonestar...

Second, EVW has his own show. Ultimately, he alone is responsible for the content of his particular show. Upon taking this responsibility, he has acquired certain authority. That authority allows him to mold the show as he sees fit. If, for example, it was your show, you would be pushing your own beliefs before that of the opposition, and that would be fine...if it were your show.

Eric, like many talk show hosts, takes calls from listeners who agree and disagree. Though I don''t listen to him as often now, as I have in the past due to work related matters, I have not found him to be overly abrupt with those who do not agree with his points. Sure, most of the callers will be in agreement with him, but that is just the way the talk show world is...most listeners agree more often than not with the host to whom the listen.

As for the beach, I particularly could not care less, so I am not even going to get into that issue. I much prefer mountains and snow to heat and salt water; however, my life has plopped me down in SoTex...

Anyway, welcome to the board and give Eric a call. I am sure he will be happy to let you air your point of view. Hopefully, for all concerned, a happy medium will be found that protects the beaches but allows adequate access. Now...if we could only get Mt. Pilatus moved to Kingsville... secondevet
Posts: 1 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/8/2006 4:35:36 PM Free access by the public to Texas beaches is now a swan song. The public ""servants"" who are entrusted with protecting our interests are selling them for a bowl of porridge. Check out what the Cameron County Commissioner''s Court has done! Leased Isla Blanca Park to a Federally convicted kidnapping felon to develop a hotel/casino complex where the public now has a parking lot.
Your City Commissioners are no different. The have lost all sense of propriety and history of our area and are selling it away bit by bit. Their dilemma is.... they think they are doing ""the Right Thing"".

Unless the public element remaining with a sense of homage to our forbearers ( see Open Beaches Act) can come forward and make these crucial issues known.... its all history.

Sorry, Eric, but you didn''t think this one through. Show your civic responsibility and retract it all. Get on the side of the people.


speak to any s claymore
Posts: 129 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/8/2006 9:07:52 PM There''s a lot of beach around here. Why can''t we have it both ways?

I have relatives in north central TX who average 3wks. a year at the beach. I have tried for 20 yrs. to entice them into staying in Corpus. They always go to South Padre Island instead. Three reasons. The beaches down there are kept clean. There are no cars with alcohol/drug impaired drivers sharing the beach with their children. The threat of violence is much lower. These people are affluent and spend a lot of money down there in three or four weeks. We could have the best of both worlds right here, 180 miles closer to DFW or Houston. ladrtrk55
Posts: 19 Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/8/2006 10:45:34 PM

Apples to oranges, SPI isn''t NPI. Everything from the water clarity, the type of sand, the highrises on the beach, and the proximity to Mexico make it a much more desirable destination. Not to mention the currents, the same ones that deposit the tons of seaweed on our beach completely bypasses SPI.
What they did to SPI would be illegal today...just like the seawall.

If the kooks who want this place to be like Ft.Lauderdale, Destin, Santa Cruz, Malibu, etc., SPLIT! go live there!
Leave this place to be the unique free space left on Continental America.


Oh, BTW, Eric is certainly entitled to his opinion, he has the mike. But, I challenge ol'' EVW to walk with me to the jetties someday with my usual array of beach gear....I guarantee he changes his tune.

Are ya listening, EVW? lonestar
Posts: 4 Re: Re: Eric''s beach agenda
6/9/2006 12:32:44 AM Thanks for the welcome guido and cs. I should have called when Eric was pushing the restriction but I am not a debater and I didn''t have an organized argument to go up against Eric. I just know that it is wrong to allow a developer to manipulate the public through the city council. I am not against this development at all. I think they should build as many resorts as they want. Just don''t try to hijack our beaches. I don''t think this resort will go over as well as they think anyway. I have been going to our beaches for 35 years and on average we have the dirtiest water, highest humidity, stickiest sand and the most seaweed of any beach I know of. Memorial day weekend was a prime example. Seaweed and trash 1 foot high on all of our beaches. I was afraid to walk to the water in fear of stepping on some hidden obstacle. My point is that, even though I love them, our beaches are not world class and never will be. The reason South Padre has developed so much is because they do have world class beaches. EVW mentioned how we would benefit through tax cuts/breaks. Ask the residents of south padre if they have had any tax relief...the ones I know are having to move off the island because they cannot afford to pay their taxes. As for our beach, a parking lot next to the jetty with a bollard protected beach would solve this whole issue. There should be equal access for the development and the citizens. Cato
Posts: 171 Chucky Cazalas likes to wine and dine ole Eric
6/9/2006 1:57:23 AM Maybe we ought to join them Curdumdeon. hehehehe. Eric will probably be given his own room free Cato
Posts: 171 Is Eric ready to debate ole Homer? On Beach and Harbor Bridge? Homers email
6/9/2006 3:29:34 AM reads, anytime, anyplace. I''ll be on call 24 hours.

Now we need a moderator? Mayor Henry Garret and Co. Jugde Terry Shamsie.